WAKE UP! Conference Call Interview with Illuminati Reformer Leo Zagami (1of4)

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This is an article accompanying, as alluded to in the above picture, a most recent conference-call-styled interview of Illuminati Grand Master and Reformer Leo Lyon Zagami, hosted by Mel Puleo. Due to size considerations I have split the article into three parts + 1 part containing suggestions for follow-up questions.

To ease the navigation of this rather lengthy interview, I precede each new question with a time stamp preamble of the format: TS hh:mm:ss. The interview can be downloaded here or, alternatively, the raw master file can be directly listened to here.

TS: 00:01:42
Q: What did you have to do to earn a masonic 33rd degree?

Leo first goes into the history behind Freemasonry. He mentions the ancient Mystery Schools and how the knowledge they guard has been abused. The Mystery Schools are not all bad though and they have greatly aided and benefited mankind through facilitating the creation of technology for instance. As knowledge is of and by itself of a neutral character, it is up to mankind to use it for good or evil.

Apart from the first three basic degrees of Freemasonry, Leo touches on the distinction between the York Rite of Freemasonry, which is English, and the Scottish Rite, which is Scottish. He also mentions Memphis and Misraim, Egyptian Freemasonry.

Napoleon was a member of the Illuminati. The Illuminati knows many groups. There is the Invisible College of the Rose Cross and the Council of Twelve, which is extended to the 13th element, the Messiah. There is a schism between the “good Illuminati” versus the “evil Illuminati”, or the Rosicrucian tradition versus the Jesuit Alumbrados tradition. A lot of Illuminati families, through their worship of divinities (demons, Jinns, “aliens”), became enslaved to those entities.

Is Big Brother, who has invaded our lives already through the Internet, “acting legally or illegally”? In other words, is it of divine or of demonic character?

As the mason progresses through the various initiations he is “instructed into various arts” and into “reading certain books.” He learns of Yoga, Masonic Symbology and the Occult Sciences of Freemasonry, Magic, Mystic Christianity, secret Tantric Yoga, death and Divine Knowledge. Leo condemns the practice of the corruption of Masonry for the purpose of “making money.” Unfortunately, “other brothers” want to implement the NWO in the “most brutal fashion possible.”

Leo then touches on the existence of a higher plane of knowledge, the “end of ignorance towards the Science of God.” He says that “there will be no more space for the traditional religions” as they have been abused as instruments of power. The Kingdom of God, to be manifested in 2012, is to be run by responsible individuals rather than by selfish satanists. Therefore, the NWO can either be positive or negative, depending of who is in charge of it.

TS: 00:15:36
Q: May Obama turn on the Bad Illuminati? How many attempts will there be on his life?

Leo explains that Obama has been “put there for a specific purpose” and that he has has “nothing to fear, apart from theater.” Obama is a member of the CFR, which is working under the Trilateral Commission, which in turn is run by “Israel, Great Britain and the USA together with the usual families, including Rockefeller, Rothschild, the whole crew.”

Leo goes on to state that Obama, as the new president, is to give hope to the US. The Financial crisis is only to deepen and the “economy is to further fall into pieces.” Although Obama preaches hope in galore, the sad reality is that there “really is no hope.” The corrupt politicians of today will “all be kicked out of office” by 2012 when the “real revolution of the people” is to kick off.

Once the US starts to break down, the rest of the world, including Europe, Asia, etc., is to follow suit. Asia has an advantage however, and this is why all the “main investors go to China” and thus is “becoming a danger.” Furthermore, China is not the only threat in the region as “India is another danger,” Leo states.

TS: 00:20:18
Q: Will Obama be forced into a WWIII situation? If so will they manipulate Israel to start with Iran first?

“Absolutely, we are going towards a great show,” that will “magnetize the people of the whole world.” But Leo also states that the future is uncertain “after the next four years.” He goes on to say that we “have to work together in order to survive and implement a system that can bring us to the next level.” That next level being a politico-religious system based only on truth and science (“God is only science”) rather than ignorance and superstition. Initially, all religions have been part of that science of God since they all “have been created by divine messengers of the Divine Will,” only to become corrupted later on. But now we have to follow purely genuine teachings, as opposed to the present corrupt teachings, so as to be able to welcome the spirit of Jesus Christ during a future Second Coming rather than see more false prophets and false messiahs.

Obama, “the great magnetic animal,” knows how to “captivate the attention of the masses”; it is “mind control at its best,” Leo adds. Obama utilizes a “technology of the mind that goes back a hundred years”, and due to the importation of many a Nazi scientist immediately following the end of WWII, it also includes mind technology that had been pioneered in Nazi Germany. Therefore, this type of technology is “definitely part of the Illuminati culture and establishment.”

Leo emphasizes the urgency of the now by stating that “we are surrounded by the enemy” and that therefore we all “must take a stand to survive the next stage, the microchipping” mandate that will be forced on the people. Once we take that servitude mark, or, Mark of the Beast, “we lose our freedom completely”, become all “part of the matrix” and it is all over, “finito!”

In order to defeat the Matrix, we need to have people that are “spiritually pure” because one enters a reality that belongs to the metaphysical Kingdom. Unfortunately, with the current level of corruption at the top of the pyramid we are heading towards a catastrophe, Leo states.

TS: 00:24:44
Q: If Israel attacks Iran, do you feel Russia, China and some of the other Arab nations will engage the US? If so, will the US see war and bomb  <unintelligible>?

Leo replies succinctly, “you have wars and rumors of wars. You have to get ready for them. On top of this system are not ordinary people.” Leo suggests that the top is either run by psychopaths and/or demons.

TS: 00:25:21
Q: Do you think they are gonna bypass ushering in the Amero and go straight to the one world currency based on our economic situation?

“The one world currency needs to be established for these people” and we soon will have “only digital currency”, which necessarily is a universal single currency, Leo explains.

The NWO is being implemented, it is unstoppable, the only thing we can do is “regain control of it”, Leo says.

America is still loyal to Great Britain via a Trilateral pact involving the Vatican, England, and apparently also Moscow, the once great communist power. While once atheistic, since the fall of the Berlin Wall, religion has made a comeback in Russia and it now, while collaborating with the Vatican, has once again secured its grip over Russia. “Religion is the biggest business”, and Leo stresses that governments do not act independently from the Church, as politicians are connected via local clergy to Rome and Jerusalem through various Knighthoods.

Rather than worshiping God, the supreme manipulators of the world worship demons, in return for power, and thus, by definition, “are pagan.” Unfortunately, the “evil side has taken over the show.” Since digital currency can easily become our digital prison, the Dark Side, represented by the Anti-Christ, is working hard to try to take control of it. It is our “biggest challenge”, to try to avert this doomsday scenario. Therefore we should insist that, once the economy collapses in its entirety, the NWO that will then emerge will “satisfy all nations of the earth.” It is not ethically sustainable that all power resides in the hands of one person or one family, unless that person is the Messiah, something which will not be the case as he instead will be a “servant of Lucifer”, Leo explains.

Their aim is to enslave us in a “digital prison”, by 2012, and therefore we must reclaim the power and hand it over to people who are truly illuminated and gifted by God.

TS: 00:36:32
Q: What do we do to survive?

“First of all, we need to create movements which are able to dialogue with the enemy” and remind these people that they are “independent minds” who can rebel against their satanic masters. “America is the leading nation in the End of Times.” Since the enemy also resides in the US they too “need to be kicked out of office.” These are people “who have sold their soul” to the Saudi King, Russian Mafiosi, Korean Mafiosi, etc. . They are people who have sold their country “to foreign investors, who are capitalizing on America,” and will tear it down once they withdraw the money they’ve put into it.

The US looks towards more and more increasingly severe problems (immigration, crime, unemployment etc), while “everything is controlled in the land of Big Brother.” As a result, people are increasingly getting more scared, through the “strategy of tension” that started with terrorism/911 and is now most effectively compounded by a failing economy. The people are bound to find out that therefore the “system is not working” and simply continues “enriching the few and enslaving the many.” Since Obama is a stool-pigeon in contradistinction to a spontaneous phenomenon, the people need to reclaim the presidency so that a government emerges that will act by the people and for the people, as it is supposed to be.

TS: 00:46:08
Q: Will we see a collapse of the FED and the IRS during the Obama Administration?
“The Federal Reserve is a private company, not owned by the American people”, that was secretly created on Jekyll Island by a most wealthy and powerful group of bankers. If they decide to force the US to collapse they will crash the FED, which is owned by the “usual suspects”, “the usual families.”

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